"Can you say for sure that all of your fire fighters know CPR?" I asked Detroit Fire Fighters Association President Dan McNamara.
"No I cannot. We originally were trained on it, but what I can say is we have not had the required refresher training," he answered.
A shocking and dangerous revelation -- lapses in life saving, critical training for Detroit city fire fighters. McNamara says the city won't pay.
"We're mad as hell that we're not being able to give them the opportunity to do our jobs that we're supposed to be doing," McNamara told me. "Our fire fighters are starting to write letters now to the commissioner requesting training."
At some point, all fire fighters were trained, but like most fields, if you don't use it, you lose it.
McNamara can't remember the last time some courses were offered. He says he's repeatedly requested refresher courses in CPR, confined space rescue, rapid water rescue, icy water rescue and Hazmat training.
"Every taxpayer in every community pays for three or four levels of police service -- sheriff's deputies, state police, local police. How many levels of EMS and fire are you paying for? One," he said.
Tuesday, fire fighters worked tirelessly to save six-year-old Julio Chavez and his four-year-old brother, Mike. The two were home alone when their house caught fire.
It's still under investigation, but sources say it could have been a mattress fire started by a candle. Both boys were barely conscience. No EMS was called to the scene because the initial call didn't indicate anyone was inside the house. The fire crews transported the kids to the hospital. Thankfully they knew CPR, but sadly six-year-old Julio did not survive. Four-year-old Mike was listed in critical condition.
Detroit is one of the few cities in the country that doesn't automatically send EMS to dwelling fire or at least staff a fire truck with a paramedic.
"It's only when the system fails that that problem comes up to us," said McNamara.
"Did the system fail yesterday?" I asked him.
"Yes," he responded.
McNamara is now asking the state for an official investigation into the department's lack of training. He believes the city will only act if someone holds their feet to the fire.
"We're doing the best we can with what we've been trained to, and we're going to do that. We're going to do it instantaneously. But the city's liable," he said.
We received the following response from Detroit Executive Fire Commissioner Don Austin:
"During initial training at the Fire Academy, all fire fighter candidates are trained for Medical First Responder (MFR) certification, as required by the State of Michigan. MFR certification includes knowledge of CPR.
"Fire fighters should be trained for CPR recertification every two years, under American Heart Association requirements. The Detroit Fire Department will initiate a program to train fire fighters in CPR for recertification next month."
Tuesday, March 12 2013 4:33 PM EDT2013-03-12 20:33:13 GMT
The 75-year-old grandmother charged with open murder in the shooting death of her own grandson could take the stand any day in her own defense, but Tuesday belonged to the prosecution.
The 75-year-old grandmother charged with open murder in the shooting death of her own grandson could take the stand any day in her own defense, but Tuesday belonged to the prosecution.
Sunday, May 19 2013 9:08 PM EDT2013-05-20 01:08:52 GMT
It's National Boating Safety Week - a good time to learn about new boating safety regulations. Macomb County Sheriff Anthony Wickersham talked with Fox 2 about what boaters need to know.
It's National Boating Safety Week - a good time to learn about new boating safety regulations. Macomb County Sheriff Anthony Wickersham talked with Fox 2 about what boaters need to know.
Wednesday, May 15 2013 9:12 PM EDT2013-05-16 01:12:58 GMT
There was a last ditch effort Wednesday to save Oakman Elementary and Orthopedic School, a Detroit public school that services a high number of disabled and special needs children.
There was a last ditch effort Wednesday to save Oakman Elementary and Orthopedic School, a Detroit public school that services a high number of disabled and special needs children.
Wednesday, May 15 2013 7:12 PM EDT2013-05-15 23:12:48 GMT
Makayla Lance is only 17 years old and facing death. Tuesday she was shot in the face allegedly by her 18-year-old boyfriend. When police responded to the scene, he was trying to save her life.
Makayla Lance is only 17 years old and facing death. Tuesday she was shot in the face allegedly by her 18-year-old boyfriend. When police responded to the scene, he was trying to save her life.
Thursday, May 9 2013 4:54 PM EDT2013-05-09 20:54:33 GMT
We've all had one of those days. You have a million things on your mind and are moving way too fast. In Southfield, one woman's absent minded moment put her in a tight spot.
We've all had one of those days. You have a million things on your mind and are moving way too fast. In Southfield, one woman's absent minded moment put her in a tight spot.
Tuesday, May 21 2013 3:43 PM EDT2013-05-21 19:43:35 GMT
Brian Woehlke and his family
All funds collected will be donated to the Westland Fire Fighters Charity's fund for the family of fallen firefighter Brian Woehlke, who passed away while battling a Westland fire on May 8.
All funds collected will be donated to the Westland Fire Fighters Charity's fund for the family of fallen firefighter Brian Woehlke, who passed away while battling a Westland fire on May 8.
Tuesday, May 21 2013 2:12 PM EDT2013-05-21 18:12:17 GMT
An attorney for a former Michigan Supreme Court justice says community service would be an appropriate sentence for a scandal that forced her out of office.
An attorney for a former Michigan Supreme Court justice says community service would be an appropriate sentence for a scandal that forced her out of office.
Tuesday, May 21 2013 12:01 PM EDT2013-05-21 16:01:58 GMT
The American Red Cross is working in a variety of ways and from several different areas of the country to help the victims of the tornadoes which struck in the nation's heartland.
The American Red Cross is working in a variety of ways and from several different areas of the country to help the victims of the tornadoes which struck in the nation's heartland.
Tuesday, May 21 2013 11:48 AM EDT2013-05-21 15:48:16 GMT
Weather Authority Ben Bailey says the humidity has dropped since earlier this morning but the risk of severe weather still exists Tuesday throughout southeast Michigan.
Weather Authority Ben Bailey says the humidity has dropped since earlier this morning but the risk of severe weather still exists Tuesday throughout southeast Michigan.
Tuesday, May 21 2013 11:31 AM EDT2013-05-21 15:31:20 GMT
As people struggle to pick up the pieces in the areas of Oklahoma ravaged by tornadoes, we've learned some relief will be coming from right here in Michigan.
As people struggle to pick up the pieces in the areas of Oklahoma ravaged by tornadoes, we've learned some relief will be coming from right here in Michigan.
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